You see something like this, courtesy of Neal Hall, the Vancouver Sun:
The Mountie who repeatedly Tasered Robert Dziekanski at Vancouver’s airport two years ago has filed a libel lawsuit against the CBC.
The legal action by Constable Kwesi Millington claims that CBC’s coverage of the incident since Nov. 4, 2007 has caused him to suffer “serious embarrassment and distress” and has caused him “public ridicule.”
Millington claims CBC’s coverage has “seriously injured” his reputation, causing him to seek punitive and aggravated damages against the CBC
Makes it seem like he’s the victim in all of this, no?
I have no sympathy for the ” serious embarrassment and distress “, or the ” public ridicule” caused by the media coverage of the horrible and tragic death of Robert Dziekanski, Cst. Millington.
None.
I guess you would have preferred that everyone shut up and pretend it never happened.
So.
These are my questions:
How much money, exactly, will it take to ease Cst. Millingtons embarressment and distress, and restore his tarnished reputation?
~ and~
What legal recourse does the deceased, Robert Dziekanski have, to recover the remainder of his life ?
Filed under: Blogroll, CKNW Talk SHow Idol, Credits, Laila Yuile, bc politics, crime, humour, politics | Tagged: braidwood taser inquiry, CKNW Talk SHow Idol, cst. millington, Laila Yuile, lawsuits, RCMP, robert dziekanski
Millington. if you win your suit ,ask to be paid in Polish Zloty’s , you’ll need it in Poland after the Polish government extradites you and your buds.
Anybody can hire a bottomfeeder. Your legal system at work.
The gall of it makes bile rise into my mouth.
It always makes me laugh when people can so easily attach a $$ figure to their pain and suffering. As if.
I hope Poland does extradite them! Perhaps then the senior officer in charge that horrific night will finally face charges for his night of impaired driving – the night young Orion Hutchinson was killed. Said officer has still not been charged with his death after all this time. Justice is alive and well – just not living in BC.
So when you become the NDP MLA for your area Laila, what would be your first move on this?
I wonder if Millington has a palate for perogies and large men, Aah, can’t you just visualize it, a cell for 2, a bunk for 1, perogies and a private romantic evening with big Boris.
Intelligent discourse there henry. well done.
I assume you are referring to the situation of Cpl. Monty Robinson, rather than Millington? Correct me if I am wrong, it just seems sequitur in the line of comments. My first move would be the one I just made. Read on.
Orion Hutchinson was killed October 25th, 2008.
Delta police finally recommended charges to the crown on or about June 9th,2009, of impaired driving and dangerous driving causing death.
At that time, criminal justice branch spokesperson Neil Mackenzi said that he anticipated the charges would be reviewed within a month. That was in a June 9th story to the Vancouver Sun.
(http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Impaired+driving+charges+recommended+against+Mountie+involved+Dziekanski+Tasering/1678410/story.html )
ON October 26th, fellow writer Norman Farrell received a response from the assistant deputy AG, Robert Gillen that said:
“I would like to assure you that this matter is getting the due care and attention that it deserves from Crown Counsel mindful of their duty to preserve confidence in the justice system. ”
Robert W. G. Gillen
Assistant Deputy Attorney General, Criminal Justice Branch
Today is November 9th, 2009, a full year after the death of Orion Hutchinson and 4 months after Delta police recommended charges.
I called Neil Mackenze, spokesperson for the Criminal Justice Branch just now, and spoke with him at his Victoria #.
I reminded him of his time estimate from the June/09 story, and asked him what was taking so long for Crown to approve charges.
He advised me that he was wrong about the timeline and that Crown decided they needed more information from the Delta police, and would need to review that information before approving charges. He was unable to speak to the nature of the information further requested by Crown.
I then asked him if Delta police were co-operating and if they had already provided all the information requested by Crown, and he said he believed that they had provided some of it, but that he did not know what was currently going on with it.
I asked Neil if he could check on that current status and call me back,he agreed and he took my name and number. I expect a call shortly.
If I were an MLA, independant or NDP, I would do the same thing first -find out the status of the case and who/what is holding it up.
Right now, let us see where this crown review is at, and what the anticipated time to charge approval or disapproval is. I’m curious whether or not Delta police have handed over everything requested by Crown. If they have, Crown has some explaining to do, as does the Mike de Jong and Kash Heed. I have no idea how long it normally takes to approve charges, but this is not lending itself to increased public confidence, or resolution for Orions family.
salvatore bennedetto, on November 4th, 2009 at 2:17 pm Said:
Intelligent discourse there henry. well done.
——————————————————————–
Long time coming , but I accept, thank you.
Shifting gears here,regarding Cpl Monty Robinson, I noticed you referred to him as Cst, did he finally get knocked down a notch?
Im just wondering , not only is Robinson a mountie but also native, maybe there is a situation there or possibly they wish to try him in a sweat lodge to sweat a connfession out from him.
My error, Henri, made in haste.
My theory is they won’t lay or dismiss charges against Robinson for the death of Hutchinson until after Braidwood finalizes his report.
This should have gone to a special prosecutor because former Deputy AGM Allan Seckell, who until recently was responsible for administration of justice, was and is directly involved with Gordon Campbell. The BC Liberals and the RCMP can be accused of washing each others dirty laundry.
Non political administration of justice? Ha!
Maybe they should wait until the Coroners inquest is also finished. Probably some more revelations coming from that corner seeing as how the inquiry pre-empted the Coroner from getting on with his business.
So how does this all fit with your political conspiracy theory there norman? You accuse the RCMP and the BC Liberals of washing each others dirty laundry, maybe you can elaborate on how that woks a bit for those of us in the great unwashed camp.
S.B., understand the independence principle. It requires the absence of bias, real and perceived, in the administration of justice. There is supposed to be a “Chinese wall” between politicians and AGM justice administrators. Given the relationship of Allan Seckel to BC Liberal bosses, now and before, integrity of the separation may be questioned by many.
Those following court appearances in the Basi/Virk BCR case and the Basi/Young/Duncan ALR matter note that court administrators regularly confound the public notices of scheduling for these sensitive cases
Robin Mathews for one made public demand that RCMP investigate the BCR matter more broadly, reviewing political masters of an apparently corrupt sale. Numerous issues have been raised over much time and there is a case arguable that evidence was destroyed in contravention of statutes and in the face of formal cautions to preserve documents that could become evidence. Despite an early RCMP statement that “organized crime had penetrated the BC legislature,” the police apparently narrowed their inquiries to exclude elected officials and have not examined destruction of documents.
One other thing. During the time when the RCMP might have been investigating malfeasance of BC Liberals, the RCMP was negotiating with BC Liberals a 20 year renewal of its contract to supply police services, a contract that involves about one third of the total RCMP force. A perceived conflict of interest between the parties? You draw your opinion, others will draw theirs.
You remind me of my old man who saw a communist in every building and fluoride as a another plot to take over north america. I would be interested in your pure version of “independence” and how that would work.
The people elected a government and that government is in charge of the police through the police act and the minister responsible for public safety. Would you have the police not accountable to civilians elected by the people? How would they be handled then? by the mandarins in the civil service?
Maybe the elected officials they did not look at were not involved in anything that they knew about eh? Remember, what you can prove in court is a lot different than what you may suspect or theorize.
Isnt mathews the one the RCMP replied to that if he had something other than unsubstantiated allegations they would indeed look at them? and would it not be smart to let all the chips fall all over about the “sale” before sorting through them looking for evidence? Or should they just wade right into the middle of the big mess and go off in all directions wasting my tax dollars?
“Isnt mathews the one the RCMP replied to that if he had something other than unsubstantiated allegations they would indeed look at them? ”
Sal, I regret to inform you, but it isn’t the citizen’s duty to provide “evidence,” though the citizen may become the source of evidence in various ways, through testimony or like the fellow who video recorded the murder by taser at YVR. It used to be the responsibility of the police to INVESTIGATE, and therefore seek out and come up with evidence of a crime.
If I hear a gun go off next door, see the husband run out and drive off and subsequently discover the wife’s body with a gunshot wound – I CALL the police and tell them I THINK a crime was committed – I don’t have to show up at the police station with boxes of evidence – that is the job of the police.
The fact that there are MANY allegations of lost, missing or destroyed evidence in the BC Rail case is in itself reason enough for police who are actually taking their oath seriously to enforce the law to make inquiries.
They could start with the woman in (or who was in) the BC government information management department who has submitted a signed affidavit to the effect that she was “told to forward emails from the relevant period to EDS for destruction.” The fact that these e-mails (public documents, paid for and belonging to the people) were apparently not retained for the length of time required BY LAW in itself is “probable cause” to investigate the possibility of a criminal act. The fact that they were SPECIFICALLY from the period of the perhaps criminal and fraudulent “sale/giveaway of BC Rail (and already the cause for criminal charges – though perhaps not against the correct criminals) and deleted during a stunningly fraudulent election campaign is just more reason to investigate and either clear the air or hold those responsible accountable under the law.
It is the police’s job to “substantiate” allegations, not the public’s. Sal, if I were to see you weaving down the road, apparently drunk, my only responsibility would be to call the police and give them your license number and location. I am not expected to chase you down, pull you over and administer the breathalyzer.
I know engaging in actual investigations would force some police to lose out on some tasering time, but really, it is part of the job descriiption. It ain’t all about drinking and running over people and tasering folks.
Sal, you seem to think everybody should just relax and let things follow their course and play out. The sad truth is NOTHING is actually playing out, delay is the name of the game, and it isn’t the defense (Basi, Basi and Virk’s defense team) that is causing the delay.
Koot why bother with that guy ,he thinks its up to the people to dig up evidence,so why do we need the police?He’s just a sh** stirrer and the pots full and boiling over and getting all over him ,cause his comments don’t make any sense.
Actually only your last paragraph shows any basic understanding of my post koots. You fail to understand what I wrote in that and the other post about the police wading into an ongoing proceeding.
You think because somebody, during an ongoing legal proceeding should be able to cause the police to jump in the middle and start interviewing, interrogating, searching, seizing stuff? Get a grip. You cannot interfere with legal proceedings. And you think it would be too much to ask that all the testimony, paper, or lack thereof, witnesses be heard from, evidence or lack thereof entered, before you start wasting my tax dollars, again? apparently not.
Your analogy is simplistic and self serving and not even on topic. Responding to an emergency situation is in no way the same as wading into an ongoing legal proceeding and beginning to investigate allegations from a third party that involve the witnesses and evidence being presented or about to be presented. The very fact that it is dragging along with complicated legal issues should give you a clue that its not cut and dried under our present legal system. Its just not the way things are done.
Delay is a two edged sword as well. The defense can cause delay by asserting non disclosure when there is none for one small example. A game played by lawyers on a daily basis. Both share the blame. Make no mistake, its a game.
“I know engaging in actual investigations would force some police to lose out on some tasering time, but really, it is part of the job descriiption. It ain’t all about drinking and running over people and tasering folks.” You forgot to slag their donut eating there too koots.
Oh and “probably cause” is an American term. Up here in Canada its “reasonable and probable grounds”, “reasonable suspicion”, “objective” and “subjective” grounds.
You are deliberately incorrectly interpreting my post disengenuine, I do not think its up to the people to dig up evidence. Try reading the posts more carefully. “He’s just a sh** stirrer and the pots full and boiling over and getting all over him ,cause his comments don’t make any sense.” ……Ya that make sense alright….
Too true, why bother with me, you cannot answer my questions or correctly read the posts so just dismiss what ever part you dont understand or just dont get.
Kind sir ,it seems like you don’t get it, the investigation,must come first you see,to gather evidence before it comes to court,you can’t go to the garden and harvest before you sow the seeds,so dude don’t count you’re chips before you win the hand.
Sal,why then are the mandarins being charged ,when the people in charge are supposed to be looking after our. (I repeat our) yours and mine Sal.
Sal, Sal, Sal, perhaps it is more a case of YOU don’t understand what in the hell you are writing, as in:
“You think because somebody, during an ongoing legal proceeding should be able to cause the police to jump in the middle and start interviewing, interrogating, searching, seizing stuff?
To which ongoing proceeding are you referring? About the only thing ongoing during the “hidden/show” pretenses of pre-trial hearings down at Robson and Smithe is ongoing heel dragging and perhaps obstruction of justice – to the point of removing the judge if necessary. As Genuine points out above – the interviewing, interrogating and seizing of evidence SHOULD be done before the case goes to court.
Unfortunately for those not part of the Campbell Crime Family in this “case” decisions were made early on NOT to interview those most likely involved in the possible criminal acts and even though boxes and boxes of evidence were siezed, for some reason it seems difficult for our oh so “special” prosecutor to actually locate and/or share (disclosure) that evidence with either the defense team or the public (who definitely have an interest in these so-called proceedings).
As you say, delay is a tactic that can be used by either side – HOWEVER in this case it is clear which side is creating the delay. Adding to the insult to the people of BC is that Justice Bennett didn’t seem to consider her orders for disclosure to be anything more than polite (but not necessary to be complied with) requests and the new judge in town thinks disclosure is as quaint as the Cheney/Bush administration considered the Geneva Conventions.
If you aren’t in the employ of the Public Affairs Bureau, the PAB is wasting the taxpayers’ money paying the biggest press room in Canada to shape our perceptions, when they have people like you doing their job for free.
Pre trial hearings are proceedings. Interrogation of witnesses in that proceeding about that proceeding or anything stemming from that proceeding before they are finished by anyone other than the participants is interference. In order to investigate the allegations stemming from the pre trial hearings, you would have to interview/interrogate witnesses no? Would they be called at trial? yes. Therefore you are interfering with the process. Would you have to gather evidence? yes. Is it possible some of that evidence compellable by search warrant? yes. Is some of that evidence going to be used at rial? yes. Therefore you cannot interfere.
Read this, maybe you will get an idea.
http://www.icclr.law.ubc.ca/Publications/Reports/An_Independant_Judiciary.pdf
If you still dont get it, go and see if you can, as is your right, to lay a private information against your “crime family” listing all the offences and see if the Crown will proceed with it. Or go to the Pivot Legal Society and see if they will start the ball with your information for free.
Try and stay away from ridiculous accusations like your last paragraph. Its pathetic.
Salvatore, make sure you wear a hat when sitting at the computer.
Perhaps you should advise the APD and the RCMP to stop investigating the Bacon Bros. and the UN Gang since proceedings are underway. Under your system, only one charge per customer.
Norman they tried to phone judith ried and collins but they weren’t answering their phones,I also think they knocked on the door and nobody answered ,gee whiz what else can a cop do?right sal?
By the way can you answer the mandarin question sal.After all you brought the oranges up.just in time for christmas
Try and disprove my points rather than playing silly bugger with personal attacks and hyperbole for a change.
Your the one playing a very silly bugger,and answer the question.
The only madarins referred to by me in this thread is a question posed to Farrell : “Would you have the police not accountable to civilians elected by the people? How would they be handled then? by the mandarins in the civil service?” That was in reply to his: “S.B., understand the independence principle. It requires the absence of bias, real and perceived, in the administration of justice. There is supposed to be a “Chinese wall” between politicians and AGM justice administrators. Given the relationship of Allan Seckel to BC Liberal bosses, now and before, integrity of the separation may be questioned by many.”
Why dont you answer the question: True or false: Pre trial hearings are proceedings. Interrogation of witnesses in that proceeding about that proceeding or anything stemming from that proceeding before they are finished by anyone other than the participants is interference.
I even gave you a website to check it out. What did you give me to disprove the above? Zippo.
I was pointing out the fact that a mandarin is a mandarin no matter what branch there in,Basi and Virk where just that ,mandarins so don’t throw rocks and run stay these blogs are read by all and when someone is making suggestions that black is white ,I’ll step in whenever I please!
I even gave you a website to check it out. What did you give me to disprove the above? Zippo.
And where did “…,I’ll step in whenever I please!” come from? Somebody say you could not step in somewhere?